nextauth to supertokens questions

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I m new to SuperTokens and wanted to get some questions answered about using it with a transition from NextAuth to SuperTokens

rp · Answer

hey < Smultar> please ask

Smultar · Answer

As the question mentions above I use NextAuth

Smultar · Answer

Something that limits me is that nextauth doesnt allowed me to allow logins from other locations besides my website

Smultar · Answer

I m making my app into a desktop app and I was wondering if I can use SuperTokens to handle logins outside of my website for user authenication

rp · Answer

yea that would work I would recommend that you setup supertokens for your website first and see how it works Once you have clarity on that it should be fairly straightforward for how to get it to work for your desktop app as well

rp · Answer

since this is a very generic question that you asked i won t be able to answer it here But if you have very specific questions please feel free to ask

Smultar · Answer

Next question

Smultar · Answer

With user session objects how are they accessed on the front end

Smultar · Answer

Will I have the ability to tell of someones email id and etc

rp · Answer

yes

rp · Answer

the session s access token payload is available on the frontend

rp · Answer

you can add custom claims to it like email etc and then read that on the frontend

Smultar · Answer

Can I edit add stuff to this payload over time

rp · Answer

yes

Smultar · Answer

If someone is rejects cause they have no login

Smultar · Answer

They are directed to the login page

Smultar · Answer

Is it possible to redirect them back to the original page upon login < rp>

rp · Answer

yes

rp · Answer

please see our docs Would give you clarity

Smultar · Answer

I am reading them right now

Smultar · Answer

https supertokens com docs thirdpartypasswordless nextjs session verification in ssr

Smultar · Answer

It just some things I havent seen in the docks yet

Smultar · Answer

current reading nextjs segment

rp · Answer

it s all there Maybe search for it first

Smultar · Answer

can I use other database types besides MySQL

Smultar · Answer

op never mind

Smultar · Answer

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rp · Answer

we only support mysql and postgresql

Smultar · Answer

I found the mongo

rp · Answer

mongodb has limited support only

Smultar · Answer

wait so how does that work then

Smultar · Answer

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Smultar · Answer

session management

rp · Answer

yup

rp · Answer

session management is there in mongo

Smultar · Answer

wouldn t you need to login to get a session

rp · Answer

so you can pass in any user ID to the session recipe we have and it would create tokens etc

rp · Answer

and login is something that you can handle yourself using something else

Smultar · Answer

cause I use mongo db for my current application rn

rp · Answer

right If you want to use login features too of supertokens consider our managed service in this case or then host mysql postgresql as well

Smultar · Answer

and I would like to have session management within mongo cause its how users log out other devices

rp · Answer

if you only want to use the session management feature of ours you can use mongodb

Smultar · Answer

I m slightly confused

Smultar · Answer

If I integrate supertokens right Login services will be handled with the backend API with nextjs right

Smultar · Answer

Is mongodb only used for sessions only

Smultar · Answer

After the login with the backend api

rp · Answer

we only support mongodb for our session recipe

rp · Answer

if you use mysql psql you can use any feature we have

rp · Answer

we decouple our features recipe is what we call them so you can use our session only feature without using our login feature

Smultar · Answer

ok so I dont understand what the session recipe is and what features you get with mysql vs nosql

rp · Answer

see our docs please

rp · Answer

https supertokens com docs guides

rp · Answer

https supertokens com docs session introduction

rp · Answer

you get all features with sql You only get session recipe with mongodb

rp · Answer

does this make sense

Smultar · Answer

I understand that but I don t understand what the session recipe is

rp · Answer

see the session recipe docs It explains it clearly

Smultar · Answer

Im reading what you sent me rp

Smultar · Answer

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rp · Answer

ah right So that s missing in the session recipe docs

Smultar · Answer

It points me back to the NextJS Docs which I just read which tells me how to integrate

rp · Answer

see the non nextjs code snippets for session recipe Maybe that will make it clearer

rp · Answer

essentially the session recipe does session management only You provide it a user id and we return access + refresh tokens using which you can manage your app s sessions

rp · Answer

we don t care where the user ID comes from

rp · Answer

Also i see that you booked a call with us if you only have technical quesitons it s best to ask them here instead of a call

rp · Answer

Or would you like to discuss something else over a call

Smultar · Answer

Well you answered my question over if SuperTokens would allow authentication on a different scale

rp · Answer

right

Smultar · Answer

I m just having a hard time with your docs a lil bit I see what session recipes are now via what you explained

rp · Answer

hmm

rp · Answer

so you should pick a recipe based on the login method you want and use our managed service

rp · Answer

ignore the mongodb stuff cause we don t yet fully support it

Smultar · Answer

Yeah

Smultar · Answer

What I was hoping to do is to basically Whenever someone logins I get thoses refresh tokens session and add it as an object in my mongodb database

Smultar · Answer

So users can see this on the frontend and invalidate sessions remotely

rp · Answer

right You can do that still Once users login via supertokens you can override the create new session function on the backend to insert stuff into mongodb yourself

Smultar · Answer

I see that right here <https supertokens com docs session common customizations sessions claims access token payload>

rp · Answer

yup

Smultar · Answer

If this works I ll be able to convince my boss at work to let us swap our application login system

rp · Answer

sounds good

rp · Answer

Let us know if you have any other questions

Smultar · Answer

I always like to experiment first with my own stuff before recommending ya know

rp · Answer

after you have tried it out

Smultar · Answer

I will Thank you for handling my silly questions < rp>

rp · Answer

for now i have cancelled our call cause i think this answered your questions already Hope that s ok

Smultar · Answer

Thats fine

Smultar · Answer

So you know what im working on

Smultar · Answer

My desktop application will support my app locally and allow privillaged intent for downloads and etc

rp · Answer

cool

Smultar · Answer

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rp · Answer

let us know when launched

Smultar · Answer

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Smultar · Answer

Were already partially live

rp · Answer

looks quite fancy

Smultar · Answer

https status smultar com

Smultar · Answer

You can see the status here

Smultar · Answer

and the app here

Smultar · Answer

https aetherlink app

Smultar · Answer

I still have a few more patches till its stable but its a work in progress

Smultar · Answer

I do have one more question

Smultar · Answer

If I have multiple sub domains would that affect authentication

Smultar · Answer

I guess it would cause cookies are per sub domain

rp · Answer

You can share one session across sub domains or keep them isolated to one sub domain

Smultar · Answer

OOO

Smultar · Answer

THAT GOD TIER

Smultar · Answer

Were can I read up on this < rp> in the docs

rp · Answer

https supertokens com docs session common customizations sessions share sessions across sub domains

Smultar · Answer

Now to do that effectivetly Would I need to have a seperate microservice or can each server have their own nextjs middleware

rp · Answer

im not sure i understand the question

Smultar · Answer

So basically

Smultar · Answer

I have live beta dev and preview versions of the website Each version is for testing and phases of development

Smultar · Answer

Each server handles their own login system right now with next auth so unique per sub domain

Smultar · Answer

If I were to use ` aetherlink app` as the documentation states I would be integrating SuperTokens into each instance

rp · Answer

yea i mean different dev envs should have their own full setup of supertokens

Smultar · Answer

Would this mess with that or would you advise a separate service

rp · Answer

in our managed service we provide you with a dev and prod env If you want more you can request us for more envs at a cost though

rp · Answer

or self host the extra cores yourself connected to mysql psql

Smultar · Answer

Can I buy you a coffee for your time < rp>

rp · Answer

tweet about us instead

Smultar · Answer

I will