Multiple supertokens instances in a single express...
# support-questions-legacyn
Nightlight
01/20/2023, 10:54 PMIs it possible to add multiple supertoken instances in a single express application? The documentation only mentions a single instance using supertokens.init(). I'm wanting to set up a multi-tenant type of architecture with a single webserver and multiple cores.
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rp_st
01/21/2023, 4:56 AMHey @Nightlight this is not possible at the moment.
rp_st
01/21/2023, 4:56 AMWe are working on adding multi tenancy to the core after which, this would be possible.
n
Nightlight
01/21/2023, 4:57 AMHas the work on that already started? And do you have an eta? (Q1, Q2, etc)
Nightlight
01/21/2023, 4:57 AMMy company is working on a rewrite of a lot of our infrastructure, and was really hoping we'd swap out Cognito for Supertokens, but we really need the multi-tenancy piece 😦
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rp_st
01/21/2023, 4:57 AMSometime aroud q2
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Nightlight
01/21/2023, 4:58 AMMaybe I can push the auth implementation for us till then. Our 2.0 release is supposed to be sometime q2
r
rp_st
01/21/2023, 4:58 AMright. We should have something by then.
n
Nightlight
01/21/2023, 5:00 AMWe're working on an open source project that will have the option of both single and multi-tenant. I suppose worst case scenario we use supertokens for the single tenant, and something else for the multi-tenancy
r
rp_st
01/21/2023, 5:00 AMIf you are open to storing the all the users in the same user pool, things could work today as well.
rp_st
01/21/2023, 5:01 AMThe idea here would be to change the email of the user to include their tenant ID like user+tenantId@example.com
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Nightlight
01/21/2023, 5:01 AMI was looking at that conversation you had about that. The main issue (that you pointed out), is that you need to know the tenant id to be able to look up and wouldn't be able to do a direct lookup by email
r
rp_st
01/21/2023, 5:02 AMright yea. That's an issue indeed
rp_st
01/21/2023, 5:02 AMsince it is a hack
rp_st
01/21/2023, 5:03 AMfor proper multi tenant support, you would have to wait until it's released on our end
n
Nightlight
01/21/2023, 5:03 AMI'm not sure if we even need to be able to look up by email though without a tenant id. I think everything we use currently we always know the tenant id
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rp_st
01/21/2023, 5:03 AMright. In that case, things can work
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Nightlight
01/21/2023, 5:04 AMHm. Maybe I just roll the hacky way for now just so I can get our front-end integration with it, then when multi-tenancy support rolls out, we'll switch to using that
r
rp_st
01/21/2023, 5:04 AMyup. That works
rp_st
01/21/2023, 5:05 AMBtw, just a disclaimer, we are planning to add multi tenancy as a paid feature, priced based on the number of tenants. But we are open to negotiate and make exceptions based on the nature of your project (especially since you said it's open source)
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Nightlight
01/21/2023, 5:06 AMHow will the paid part of it be handled if we are self hosting? Some sort of licensing?
r
rp_st
01/21/2023, 5:06 AMcorrect
rp_st
01/21/2023, 5:06 AMa license key will be issued to you
rp_st
01/21/2023, 5:06 AMwhich can be fully air gapped as well.
n
Nightlight
01/21/2023, 5:06 AMDo you know any of the details of that? Like a monthly/yearly/lifetime?
r
rp_st
01/21/2023, 5:07 AMWe can make the license key however long in terms of its lifetime
rp_st
01/21/2023, 5:07 AMit's all quite flexible
n
Nightlight
01/21/2023, 5:07 AMOur profit model is going to be similar to that of Elasticsearch. So we plan to release our software to the public and be fully open source, with the restriction that people can't create competing services essentially
Nightlight
01/21/2023, 5:08 AMSo while the software is open source, we are still a for profit company
r
rp_st
01/21/2023, 5:09 AMRight. There are things that can be done to aid this type of model. The only one caveat is that the supertokens core part will not be fully open source cause of the multi tenant feature being used.
rp_st
01/21/2023, 5:09 AMSo if you are planning on distributing the supertokens core part as well, then it might cause issues
rp_st
01/21/2023, 5:10 AMbut if you keep the supertokens core part hosted by you, and user's instances of your service are run by them, then it could work
n
Nightlight
01/21/2023, 5:10 AMUsers of our open source codebase will either have to self host, or get supertokens hosting through you guys
Nightlight
01/21/2023, 5:11 AMThe multi-tenant part I don't believe will be in our open source codebase, only the single-tenant related code
r
rp_st
01/21/2023, 5:11 AMright. So single tenant stuff is open source from supertokens side as well.
n
Nightlight
01/21/2023, 5:15 AMThat actually works out perfect. As far as our open source code base goes, we are really trying to push for only using other open source dependencies in our application. Which is part of the reason we're moving away from Cognito
Nightlight
01/21/2023, 5:16 AMThanks for your help and being so quick to respond
r
rp_st
01/21/2023, 5:17 AMsounds good! Please feel free to reach out anytime for further questions.
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